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Landlord wants Windsor to outlaw massage parlours

Trevor Wilhelm, The Windsor Star

Published: Friday, March 14, 2008

A landlord feeling the heat from authorities for renting space to a massage parlour says he's going to  take on city hall by demanding it outlaws the businesses altogether and save him the heartache.

Windsor police have told Mohamed Chams they may ask the government to seize his property at 618 Goyeau if he doesn't evict Fantasy Spa, which has been charged with bawdy house offences but not convicted.

He said he's in a tight spot because if he evicts the tenants, they'll sue him. He plans to take the problem to city council.

Mohammad Chams owns a block of stores at 618 Goyeau St. One of the occupants of the building is Fantasy Spa, which has been charged as a bawdy house. Police have told Chams that he has to evict the tenant or they'll charge him criminally. So, he's going to ask Windsor city hall to outlaw massage parlours altogether.View Larger Image View Larger Image

Mohammad Chams owns a block of stores at 618 Goyeau St. One of the occupants of the building is Fantasy Spa, which has been charged as a bawdy house. Police have told Chams that he has to evict the tenant or they'll charge him criminally. So, he's going to ask Windsor city hall to outlaw massage parlours altogether.

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"If they accept it I can pull out no problem without having a lawsuit against me," said Chams, a former mayoral candidate. "If they don't, it's going to back me up, saying if you're not willing to take the heat for it, you can't put the heat on me."

Under the Civil Remedies Act, authorities can freeze, seize and forfeit property used in crime. It's under that provincial act that police could seek to have Chams' property seized if he doesn't evict the massage parlour.

"I'm not saying I'm not supporting you," said Chams. "But I need you to back me up too. And I'll be the first one on the bandwagon and say hey, it's illegal. If it's not illegal, I can't say anything. But if it's illegal, I'm against it 100 per cent."

Licensing commissioner Diane Sibley said the city doesn't have the authority to ban massage parlours.

"We have no authority in general to prohibit any type of legal business," she said. "We can't sit there and say every massage parlour is illegal. If they're legally operating and doing everything appropriately, we don't have the authority to prohibit it. It's not a realm we can consider for any type of business."

What the city can do, she said, is restrict and regulate. The city is considering that option and will have a decision by April, said Sibley.

Licensed massage therapists are regulated provincially.

 Insp. Dave Rossell said he has some sympathy for Chams, but that only goes so far.

"There has to be a time in the community where we think of the community and say, guess what? It's time for people to either do something to help the problem or there are going to be ramifications."

Rossell said police don't make the decision on whether to seize property. He said they relay the information to the Ministry of the Attorney General, which makes the decision.



COMMENTS ON THIS STORY
Christine
Fri, Mar 14, 08 at 08:50 PM
he is the landlord, not the tenant. We should support his cause. He is the victim here. And the authorities are putting him in a very tight situation. Fight for him and others in similar situations
M.Ford
Fri, Mar 14, 08 at 09:01 PM
Yes outlaw them and escorts as well. Clean the crap in this city up. Create a Union free sector in the city to.
Chris
Fri, Mar 14, 08 at 09:03 PM
Something doesn't add up here. Fantasy Spa has not been convicted. Therefore, innocent before proven guilty. Thus, the landlord should not be liable until such time. I'm no fan of massage parlours, but give me a break, siezing assets when there is no conviction crosses the line.
Landlord
Fri, Mar 14, 08 at 09:35 PM
Hey Rossell, quit trying to pass the buck!!! First you want landlords to fight crime, now you want to deflect public criticism away from Windsor Police and onto the Attorney General??? This is an outrage!!
Windsor Biz Man
Fri, Mar 14, 08 at 09:39 PM
Of course they should but is it legal to do so?
Smarten Up
Fri, Mar 14, 08 at 10:03 PM
He should follow the police order, and evict this tenant. This whole storier is getting more ridiculous all the time. Please..enough already; it is giving people a headache. And, it is ridiculous that this guy wanted to be mayor!
jenn
Fri, Mar 14, 08 at 10:06 PM
PASS THE BUCK ! What is legal here??? The city could revoke their licence as they are not in comliance with the Buisness Licence agreement.... The attorney general could order the closing of it... spineless bunch... We need to be vigilant...
JRL
Fri, Mar 14, 08 at 10:43 PM
Just outlaw everything. Smoking, drinking, sex shops, pornography, overeating, sloth, gluttony, whatever, pick your vice, just make everything and close down all the bars and businesses and open a church on every corner and a hotel so we can accomodate all those tourists. If everyone is out of work and put out of business in Grimsor, who will pay all the 100K per year parking cops and all the useless city hall bureucrats, officials, experts and other professional parasites for their imbecilic management skills at running this honky tonk into the ground? Great thinkin' geniuses...
Randy
Fri, Mar 14, 08 at 11:48 PM
Why wasn't Fantasy Spa convicted? Is the case still proceeding, or did they get an acquittal, or was it dismissed?
Curious
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 06:28 AM
If city council can help every other Tom and Dick business, it should be able to help this business owner. What he is going through is another example of police wanting to control. Just recently we had the chief say he would like to change the pay amount which has to be reported, and just before that, a police officer beat up an individual on the street telling the victim he is not to be seen in HIS City. Are we to tolerate more secrecy and gangster like activities from the cops? I hope not! Come on Windsor, open your eyes.
John
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 06:32 AM
Yes, please ban these places altogether. They are a shame for our city. The city needs to step up and not victimize the landlord.
Clean up
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 07:19 AM
Windsor must really clean up it 's act. It is the worse City in Canada to visit. And to think this man ran for Mayor.
Mike
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 07:20 AM
A rub an tug is legal in Ontario whats the problem
Confused
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 07:53 AM
Please help me understand this situation. The article says the Spa has been charged but not convicted. Does that mean that in the legal sense they are not guilty? If they are not legally guilty of a crime what basis does the landlord have of breaking their lease? If they have a licence from City Hall to operate does that infer that City Hall believes their business is legal?
Tracy
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 07:57 AM
I think the whole plan all along for the City is to get as much publicity as possible,..people will stop visiting this massage parlour with all this talk and boom the business will have little or no clients,..and they will be out of business.
john
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 08:20 AM
never been convicted BUT GUILTY any way !!! the police want to turn CANADA into a police state !!!!! aren't we already living in a democratic dictatorship run country !!!!!
Melissa
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 08:36 AM
I hope thos crininals (busines ovners) of parlour club is going to be out of Town soon.
HOLY COW WHERES THE NEW CHIEF?
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 08:48 AM
The landlord is right get rid of this crap in our downtown. I went for a walk yesterday with my seven year old and...nothing but bars massages right on our main drag...we had nothing to do down there...Escorts are legal and you have to be an idiot to think that a real massage is going on....well at least not a back massage...If our new cheif actually cares about this city he'd shut em down period! Not just the ones his boys don't attend!
JJ
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 09:07 AM
I applaud Mr. Charms for his stance. I can see how the Windor authorites abuse their power. Hooray for him to stand up to their two-faced attidudes. "Make em sweat!"
Jim Nastic
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 09:28 AM
Hell no, rub and tugs are great ! We've already got hookers, open a few more and legalize pot smoking and we could be the Amsterdam of the west ! That will bring us millions in tourist dollars! Eddie, lets get going on this- this could save downtown !
Frank
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 10:00 AM
Well they're at it-- The Ministry of the Attorney General should seize Casino Windsors property as well as all so called "massage" parlours. The same thing goes on in the rooms at the casino only on a different scale---but I doubt that will happen. Think of all that tax money they would lose. If Windsor's city hall is truly thinking of the community they should pass a law to get rid of ALL these whore houses. End of problem.
Doh
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 10:23 AM
A lease is meant to protect you. Obviously he has a badly worded one.
Paula Ann
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 10:56 AM
If you are going to force and Eviction from the landlord then make sure there is adaquite laws in place so he doesn't get lawsuite against him, he did nothing wrong but rent out his space. I know as a tenant of a rental property for years i was always informed with a lease (hopefully he has one the landlord that is ) that states this premisise may not be used for anything illigal if it is then the landlord has the right to evict. Perhaps not only better laws but also better wording for leases must be in place. YOU can not come after me for evicting you if u are found to be in violation of such lease.
What the ?
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 11:11 AM
Its not illegal so lets go after the landlord . Maybe if that doesn't work we can start to threaten innocent woman and children to get our way . Wake up windsor police , the property forfeit act was not designed for you to circumvent the law . Windsor police should be charged with harassing this landlord .
Ralph L.
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 11:18 AM
It's a sham that Mr. Chams has been put in this position. If the WPD seriously want to stop these "massage parlors" from operating as underground brothels where sex is traded for money, I feel it is their responsibility to charge the establishments themselves and follow the court procedures properly. This is still a country where innocence is presumed, is it not? I live in the downtown core and I will admit that this kind of crime is going on in many of these places (I have friends who frequent these establishments). What's next, taking houses away from unsuspecting property owners because they are unaware of illegal pot growing operations? Kudos to the WPD for wanting to clean up our city but please do it through the proper channels.
shut down
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 11:35 AM
Is this not Sin City? So why is a massage palour such a problem. Either way I don't care, if a person wants to go into one that's there business. If we shut the massage palours down Windsor Police would have nowhere to get massages. So let's shut down the stripclubs and escort services as well.
HELLO
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 11:45 AM
They have been charged but not yet convicted. How can they seize the landlord's property? If they are found guilty and he evicts them that should be enough. The landlord is being put in a no-win situation. NOT FAIR! What if he were to evict them now and they got off? They would win their lawsuit and he would pay. If those charged owned the building themselves it would not be seized until they were found guilty. Unfortunately, with the state of downtown Windsor, I believe many landlords are having to deal with tenants they would not have even considered leasing to ten years ago. Either that or board up their buildings and take a loss on the property.
downtown resident
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 11:48 AM
Shut them all down - a "massage parlour" with sexually suggestive women painted on the front door has nothing to do with a professional registered massage therapy clinic. To say that these parlours" are legitimate is ridiculous and does not reflect well on this city - are we that dumb to allow such "businesses" to exist on our major streets in our downtown? What do visitors think when they visit? The city can do much better and needs to do much better. Time to grow up.
Windsor Voter
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 11:53 AM
The city should worry about more important things that what goes on between two consenting adults behind closed doors.
Massage Parlour Fan
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 11:59 AM
Please don't ban the massage parlours, where else can I go to get the kinks out of my back.
M.Ford
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 12:52 PM
What are all the people working there going to do when they are out of work? Will the CAW hire them? Maybe they'll share some of the goverment cheese. Maybe they can unionize that industry then tax payers can fund them as well.
M.Ford Take it All!
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 01:05 PM
So will they be seizing leased cars or mortgaged homes if drug deals go down in them? ...Yeah... the banks will go right along with that...Morons in government... Our rights are being eroded...Maybe we should go after the Electrical company they provided power shut that off first...How about water....Or the phones...you target one property owner throw it all on him...next time someone breaks into a house maybe we should blame the owner for having "to nice of stuff"...something else is going on here. It stinks and I smell the rats on council. ..... "Under the Civil Remedies Act, authorities can freeze, seize and forfeit property used in crime. It's under that provincial act that police could seek to have Chams' property seized if he doesn't evict the massage parlour."......FREEDOM IS'NT FREE FOLKS! YOU KNOW WHATS FUNNY WHEN SOME CROOK ROBS YOU ON A SHODDY INVESTMENT THEY WON'T SEIZE A DAMN THING TO REIMBURSE YOU... IF GOVERMENT OFFICIALS STEAL NO SIEZURE...JUST THE UNCONNECTED CITIZEN.
Vincent Clement
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 01:32 PM
Insp. Rossell is a nice guy, but I'm sure that he believes that people should be first found guilty before we start seizing private property.
COLIN
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 01:46 PM
"We have no authority to prohibit any type of legal business." If it is a legal business, then why are they forcing Chams to put himself in a situation where he will get sued? I know of a lot of cities that have found a way to outlaw (or at least make it exceedingly difficult) to operate a massage parlour on a city. Try every other city in Ontario. Windsor definetely doesn't have a police shortage, why can't they just raid these places and then shut them down? I don't understand how you can threaten to seize someone's property because he is allowing an "illegal" activity and then at the same time say that its not illegal. I hate that Windsor has these massage parlours and can't wait to see them cleaned out of here, but that is the job of the city and the police, not a landlord.
40something
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 02:03 PM
Yes but, where would all the 40something married men go, whose wives decline to their acknowledge their existence?
Chams Allowed Their Sleaze
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 02:53 PM
Chams rented his space to "Fantasy Relaxing Massage" and expected there not to be any illegal activity??? He's not very clever if he didn't pick up on even the name of the place. Anyone else would have realized what their "so-called business" was just by the name and not rented it to them. Registered, Licensed, and government regulated legitimate massage therapy practices don't have names like "Fantasy Ralaxing Massage". They are usually part of aesthetic salon spas, or part of physiotherapy/sports medicine complexes. This guy got himself into this. He was looking to rent a space that probably no one else wanted. Rather than lose money on an unrented space, he capitalized on an opportunity and didn't care what they were doing there as long as he got his rent money. Only when they were accused of illegal activity did he take his head out of the sand and whine that he knew nothing about it. Bullpoop, that he thought they were running a legitimate "spa", and he is in a legal bind now, wah, wah, wah. Cry me a river. If sleazemonger landlords wouldn't rent spaces to those sleazey places, all to try to make a buck in a city where there are so few new legit businesses opening anywhere besides Lakeshore, then most of the sleaze in this city would vanish to bigger cities. And Chams actually ran for Mayor???? Ha, Ha, Ha!!!! I would hate to see the sleaze proliferation that would have tripled in this city if he had won that election.
Chris D
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 04:25 PM
This is just another reason for businesses to leave Windsor. The massage parlour has not been convicted of a crime and therefore shouldn't be deemed guilty until a court passes that judgment. This is the second wrong doing in just as many weeks in Windsor, last week the city closed a local pet store because they gave him a list of demands to e completed within 48hrs, things that had nothing to do with the welfare of animals. Yet, the city suspended his license. Soon enough, everyone will have to travel to Tecumseh or Lasalle to shop and conduct business because there won't be any left in Windsor. Canada is still a democratic country right ? I mean, we haven't become completely communist yet because I am sure that would have been in the paper too !
Tim
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 04:41 PM
Are you people kidding? Allow the city to prosecute and seize this man's property because he should have known that this "massage parlour" might commit illegal acts!!!!!!! I hope the cops catch you speeding and take your house and cars and all of your money. Good heaven be careful what you ask for.
Rob
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 05:07 PM
We are quickly becoming a police state. The police want this poor man to do there dirty work for them, but the police still get payed.Every business in Windsor requires a business license right? Message parlers are legal business just like any other business. If you do not like what they sell there then don't go in right? The same with strip clubs. If you want to talk about morality, how about all the lives that are destroyed with problem gambling at the casino
reno
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 05:43 PM
gee wiz -- PLATO after 3000 years the truth still holds -- LETS KILL THE LAWYERS -- dumping this on the owner disregards the MANY rights (?) they (the tenants) have to stay for MANY months while he fights all this -- MAYOR EDDIE should show some class on this.
Jon
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 05:55 PM
what does every landlord have to be a spy now and watch everything their tentants do and how they live or have to worry about their property being seized, what B.S.
Dan
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 06:21 PM
M. Ford why don't you stop complaining and just leave the city. Windsor will be better off when your gone. When my tax dollars are spent at Ford to keep the 600 jobs in Windsor, I'll be happy... If you like you tax dollars going to overpaid police officers then to each is own.....
Sav
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 06:30 PM
Lets not kid ourselves here..........this is rediculous and pathetic. Windsor police have no shame...Lets be real here, how many times have each one of these massage parlours been raided and shut down, yes all of them at least afew times. How come they reopen? Well it is obvious that some things are swept under the carpet and forgotten about when the price is right. Now we should all know what that means. Its time for some Windsor area politicians and police to clean up their act, quit taking bribes from the mobs in charge of these business. Why don't we ask a simple question of all these establishments..that is who owns them? I bet we will have a hard time figuring that one out, I wonder where their money goes..they do make alot of money. These placves can be easily all shut down it a money laundering business but our politicians are baught.
idiots
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 06:41 PM
How can they seize the property if there wasn't a conviction? No conviction means they weren't doing anything illegal (which we know probably isn't true) or they CAN'T PROVE they are not doing anything illegal (which is probably what is going on). The marvelous $100K per year cops in our wonderful city are great at writing speeding tickets and the like but they sure must suck at real detective work if they can't prove anything illegal is going on at a some of the massage parlours downtown. The problem is, and I'm no lawyer, but is it illegal in our province when to consenting adults decide to go "past 2nd base"? If so, do your job, investigate and lay charges if necessary, if not move on. Maybe it isn't illegal, if that is the case then change the laws or go on with life. I'm not saying I agree with that, there are obvious moral issues but to put the squeeze play on Mr. Chams is definitley passing the buck. Shame on our over payed cops.
Ask them
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 06:55 PM
Hey everyone call here and get some anwsers to alot of these questions 1-888-332-3234 Landlord and Tenant Board
think people
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 07:08 PM
Too all of you who are stuck on the not convicted part...I've never read where the Police are trying to use this outlet on a legitamite business. So what is the problem. They obviously have conducted an investigation as the first article says,....people are charged and this guy was just advised that these laws exist. I didn't read where the police told him to do anything. It would seem that a man who wanted us all to believe that he was smart enough to run this city would have known that the massage parlour was not likely a legit business and contacted the police to help him with that problem. Lets not forget that the police don't make laws they just enforce them. You can thank your elected politicians for these laws. I applaud the police to be smart enough to seek out and use these laws to rid this crap from our great city.
to tim
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 07:34 PM
if he should have known that the "massage parlour" might commit illegal acts then the city and government should not allow massage parlours to be legal.
John Wigle
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 08:28 PM
Once again , it is the wonderful service of OUR FINE WINDSOR POLICE , A ROOKIE COP who want's to be a SOME-BODY by hassling the owner of the property , and NOT THE BUSINESS , He should get over being picked on as a kid at either home , school , or just in general , and do his job right ,, and serve and protect and keep the public safe , and not worry about some-thing as stupid as this , The GIRL'S GOT BUSTED ,,, NOT THE BUSINESS OR THE LANDLORD !!!!!!!!! So, let's move up the ladder and hassle a land lord and not the guilty ,, Did the owner of the building on Ouellette get the same treatment when his tenant , who was the business owner ,got busted for asking for cash for sex ??? NO !!!!!!!!!!!! Windsor rookie's need to do 10 years DESK DUTY before they hit the street's , and may-be then they would stop PLAYING JOHN WAYNE OR REX HUBBARD !!!!!!!!!! , The city legalize's it , let's you open A RUB AND TUG , but who-ever you rent property from can lose their building if they don't kiss the cop's ass ???? I think what happened here is the COP ASKED FOR A BRIBE AND WAS TOLD NO , OR REJECTED AT THE RUB AND TUG , AND NOW HE HAS THE POWER TO TAKE REVENGE ,, GROW UP AND DO YOUR JOB RIGHT , GO AFTER THE CRACK DEALER"S , THEY DO MORE DAMAGE THAN A MASSAGE PARLOR , or if you did that ,you would ose your connection ????
What?
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 09:17 PM
M.Ford why did you have to bring the CAW into this? This has nothing to do with them. Enough already. You're just trying to bait people into yet another union argument which has no place here. Why do all of these comment sections turn into a whine-fest about things that have nothing to do with the topic at hand?
To Chris D:
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 09:22 PM
Yes, the "rub & tug" was not convicted of any illegal activity...yet. So police threatening to seize the landlord's property is jumping the gun just a little, and is quite hypocritical. If City Hall wasn't granting business licenses to all these sleazey massage parlours, and was actually trying to draw large anchor retailers, legitimate day-time businesses and more family oriented restaurants to the downtown, then places like this would not be spreading like a bad rash all over the downtown. Landlords are hard-up for tenants (no pun intended), so they will rent to anyone who wants to rent from them. Landlords are also to blame for all these so-called "spas" opening everywhere. City Hall should be changing their system for granting business licenses to make it very difficult for these places to get licenses. And mentioning the Windsor Animal Rescue in your post when you know nothing of the horrific filthy conditions those animals were kept in or the diseases they were exposed to there, has nothing whatsoever to do with landlords wanting the City to outlaw "rub & tugs". I do think the City should outlaw these "businesses", but then downtown would be completely boarded up instead of only half of it boarded up.
xx
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 11:01 PM
I must say this is nothing new, May windsor should fight and look for real criminals. Instead of hassling the innocent or lousy traffic offences. Go after guns and drugs, break-ins, car robberies etc... ridiculous. LETS FACE IT, MASSAGE PARLOURS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND ALWAYS WILL. ITS JUST THE SAME AGE QUESTION. THEY WILL NEVER DISSAPEAR. I DO NOT EVEN WANT TO EHAR ABOUT OUR TAX DOLLARS RUNNING A MILITARY ANTI MASSAGE PARLOUR CRUSADE. ITS AN EXISTENCE OF TIME. THERE SHOULD BE REGULATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS ON LOCATIONS ETC.. AND THATS ALL.
R.V.
Sat, Mar 15, 08 at 11:51 PM
The tenants have not been convicted of a crime. Unless they've been found guilty of committing a crime the landlord does not have legal grounds to break the lease and evict his tenants. As far as I'm concerned the tenants are running a legal business. That view would change if they were convicted of a crime. But unless the police and the state can prove in a court of law., that the tenants have committed a crime, then I do not see how the A.G. can rely on the Civil Remedies Act, when the Act requires that a crime has to have been committed. If the government seize the landlord's property without proof that a crime had been committed he may have grounds to file a Charter action against the government. If you haven't committed a crime and your falsely accused of committing a crime and the police and the government can seize your property without having to prove its case against you in a court of law, then we are all at risk. This is not simply about a massage parlour. There is a bigger issue here. If there is no proof that a crime has been committed, how is it that the A. G. would have the power under any law to have the landlord's property seized? The Civil Remedies Act may provide for the seizure of property where a crime has been committed, but until the tenants are proven guilty in a court of law of a crime, the police claims are simply an unsubstantiated allegation. There's no proof that a crime has been committed because there has been no conviction of a crime.
Paul
Sun, Mar 16, 08 at 12:03 AM
Where would city council go? behind closed doors.
MSW
Sun, Mar 16, 08 at 02:49 AM
What! Really? Is this story a joke? What happened to property rights and economic freedom? What happened to police responsibility to fight crime? If there is criminal activity going on then the police should take action, not the landlord who is merely exercising his right of economic freedom. Wake up Windsor, support this landlord.
Joanna
Sun, Mar 16, 08 at 03:21 AM
What the heck is going on in the world? Especailly in Windsor Ontario. I live on Caron Ave, well lived because I had rescently left the city due to its down hill state. I reside out west at the moment. I believe that the massage parlours are pretty nasty and yes please shut them down , the women that work there give all women the wrong meaning of what a women should do. Bring back the old school stay at home wife ,because all women deep down inside know that what they should be doing. I mean if a husband makes 25 an hour that is enough , even 15 would be to live a happy life. I came out west because I could not find bike trails to ride on anymore. I am a Child and Youth Worker and if we try to save our youth , just think. . . they are the future. What Windsor should do is make a bike park , a skate park, yes right down town and allow all the skaters and bikers to be free.. . lay them off the stuip perscribed medications such as prozak and such, give them freedom and just have them all on camera and laugh your butts off as you sit in the office and eat doughnuts from Timmys. Have a Youth Centre for kids to come in and play pool , games, sing, skate, talk , bake, and be teenages, think think and think some more, how were you when you were a teenager?
Joanna
Sun, Mar 16, 08 at 03:23 AM
Stop driving your car for once, have a RIDE YYOUR BIKE TO WORK WEEK. We are killing the air.
Legalize Prostitution
Sun, Mar 16, 08 at 03:47 AM
That way, Kenny Lewenza can organize the hookers, and they can go on strike. This might make the national news, and then more people can laugh at Windsor. Keep up the good work Kenny!
Paul
Sun, Mar 16, 08 at 06:50 AM
Mr. Charms rented to a business that has a license to conduct business. Mr. Charms is a landlord, not a Court. He has no legal authority to determine the legality or illegality of his tenant's operations. The public contends it is obvious, but it is not so obvious that there has been any judicial determination. Clearly the WPD oversteps its' legal authority. If there is an appropriate adjudication regarding the Spa, Mr. Charms could evict. If there is not, he can not without exposing himself to legal sequelae. The WPD has no mandated authority authorizing them to expose Mr. Charms to financial loss. Massage therapists are a legal licensed entity. It is the responsibility of the licensing authority to police their activity, not the landlord. Sure Mr. Charms rented to the Fantasy Spa, and he did so AFTER the city licensed them under the same name.
laj
Sun, Mar 16, 08 at 09:06 AM
keep the working girls off the streets ,its in everybodies best interest
Pastor Walt Bartel
Sun, Mar 16, 08 at 09:33 AM
I am thankful this man did not become the mayor of Windsor. He lacks conviction and leadership qualities. He rented the property to these people knowing what they intended to do. His bottom line is money. Yes the city should ban massage parlours. It is time to realize the evils of the whole sex trade. Rather than trying to glorify it, recognize it for what it is -- an eploitation of people for lust. Look what this type of vice has done for the governor of New York, for Bill Clinton, for many others who are involved in this type of evil. We need to get back to God and understand what purity is and how much of a blessing it is to walk according to His law. Psalm 33:12 "Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance." Pastor Walt Bartel
RICK w
Sun, Mar 16, 08 at 12:18 PM
First I have never been to a parlour business and probly never will but decided to comment on the parlour businesses {both kinds} because I thought about what harm it really does. I can walk by any of them any time or night without ever a worry .Yet I have been hassled waking by the Box Office many times and they have cameras there. The parlours only make the news when the police go in undercover and bust these places; not the businesses going out looking for business because it just flows into them. Yet here are the police and City council protecting and coming to the defense of known bars and clubs that are very violent giving the city a bad name and black eye, what gives? Serve and protect.. not cater to and forget!!
JRL
Sun, Mar 16, 08 at 12:22 PM
Why does it seem the whole world is increasingly run by moralizing busybodies who spend all their time telling everybody else what to do and what to think about everything? Why does an increasingly intrusive maternal and paternal nanny-state continue to make and enforce stupid laws at the behest of pious half-wits? And why should I care if cops frequent hookers and massage parlours? Politicians, Preists and so-called 'community leaders' do it all the time. In fact, maybe Preists should visit more often...might keep their grubby hands off the altar boys.
Fennec
Sun, Mar 16, 08 at 01:34 PM
I guess it was a slow crime week! Charged but not yet guilty of that charge! I guess also the mob must be right by being guilty by association... hang 'im! I guess all landlords in this city have been put on notice, if you can't read your clients mind, you're going to be charged and hung! So much for being a landlord in this city! Developers are now fleeing in droves.
Democracy ??
Sun, Mar 16, 08 at 07:08 PM
Regardless of whether the landlord knew or not what what type of business was going on in there, The business has not been charged as of yet!! By asking that the city outlaws these businesses, he would have legal grounds to evict his tenant. For you people siding with the city and police on this issue, you have never been a landlord, have you??? There are strict laws, both residential and business that landlords must follow. His statement about getting sued by the tenants if he evicts them is TRUE!! The law says landlords cannot interfere with the "reasonable enjoyment of the premises" This definition, while broad can be interpreted as tenants see fit to claim violation of a lease signed in good faith. The conclusion: The higher courts shot down the city's past attempts to regulate these kinds of places, so the city and police are trying to get landlords to do their dirty work!! While the police are likely following orders, what about compensation for the landlord if he does get sued??? RIGHT!! THIS WILL OPEN UP A FLOOD OF SIMILAR CLAIMS FOR OTHER LANDLORD/CITY DISPUTES!!!
M.Ford To What
Sun, Mar 16, 08 at 08:07 PM
I'm just trying to set the CAW up with another customer of the Union since the Auto thing isn't working out.
M.Ford To DAN
Sun, Mar 16, 08 at 08:14 PM
Dan there you go again with your CAW narcissism. As if only your opinion matters why don't you and your professional extortionist Union leave the city alone we've all had enough of your anti-business rants, "There's gonna be hell to pay" thanks Kenny! . Heck what am I worried about it's only a matter of time before the CAW is gone. Your ruining the city I be left here to build it up when the CAW is long gone!
WHAT?
Sun, Mar 16, 08 at 11:23 PM
TO M.FORD - You were just trying to turn this in to yet another union/Windsor whine-a-thon and you succeeded by getting Dan to chime in. It's getting so tiring on both sides...you're part of the problem in this city, not the solution. If you want to rant about Kenny and the CAW, fine, do it in a forum about the auto industry not one about massage parlours or other forums that really have nothing to do with the CAW. This is why this city never moves forward, people with your defeatest anti-Windsor attitude. Grow up.
Horewits
Mon, Mar 17, 08 at 02:22 AM
DARN ! Another virtuous downtown business gone !
Dave
Mon, Mar 17, 08 at 11:30 AM
Outlaw them. They are disgrace to our downtown. NY did it and look at the changes of Times Square. Windsor does not need more tub-n-tugs. Mr. Chams brought this on himself.
M.Ford To What
Mon, Mar 17, 08 at 12:50 PM
The biggest problem in this city is lack of jobs.No? People wouldn't turn to prostitution if they have a viable choice...unless I'm missing the benefits package in the fine print. I attribute "Lack of Jobs" to the ranting of "Kenny there is gonna be hell to pay Lewenza" and the CAW record. Business people witness this climate from other areas of Canada and the world and they pass our city over for investment. This is why Sarnia,London,Woodstock are experiencing NEW growth that is not available to Windsor residents. Me Anti-Windsor? Never! Me Anti-CAW rhetoric? Yes. There is a difference learn it. Maybe we should all put our fingers in our ears and have a blind confidence in the path the CAW has led this city.... The time has come to stand against these people for the greater good. HOPE TO HEAR FROM YA SOON INTERNET COP.
Cliff Saxon
Mon, Mar 17, 08 at 02:28 PM
The city has better things to worry about than evicting a massage parlour that has done nothing wrong. Canada is NOT a evangelical fundalmentalist theoracy!
WHAT?
Mon, Mar 17, 08 at 02:47 PM
Oh please, big stretch there M.Ford!! Massage parlours and prostitution were around these parts LONG before the local economy started to slip. Quite frankly if the economy is so bad, who could afford to go to a prostitute?? Come on they just didn't spring up in the past two years! BTW, business people also read comments from people like you on these boards and see all the negativity in this city. You are just trying to stir the pot. It IS anti-Windsor when you have nothing but negative things to say about this city. Blaming ONLY the CAW for our problems is narrow minded. There are certainly other factors involved and both the CAW and people like you need to come to the table and do what's good for everyone involved. The rhetoric is loud on BOTH sides. Also, how does putting your fingers in your ears and just blaming the CAW for Windsor's woes any different?
M.Ford To What
Mon, Mar 17, 08 at 04:26 PM
Yep I was reading the paper today and it said "Business refuses to locate in Windsor because M.Ford makes negative comments about the CAW. Hardly. Business doesn't locate here because they need a phone book sized labour contract to do business...give your head a shake. It is the CAW ruining this city and everyone knows it. Period. We'll see what desperate people turn to when you've chased every business from Windsor.
To 40Something:
Mon, Mar 17, 08 at 04:36 PM
Perhaps if you were not secretly visiting these rub&tugs behind your wife's back, than maybe your marriage might be happier. Stop excusing the deceitful nature of these so-called spas, and of yourself for going to them. If they were outlawed, maybe you'd have to get a "rub&tug" from your wife instead. Seems to me that might help your marriage.
WHAT?
Mon, Mar 17, 08 at 06:20 PM
M.FORD - I didn't say businesses are chased away because you said something negative about the CAW. Don't put words in my mouth. That makes no sense. What I said was your constant negativity is just as much a part of this city's problem as the CAW's rhetoric. It's all a symptom of the same problem, Windsor's inferiority complex. The CAW is not the only reason a potential business won't locate here, they take one look at the mood of this city with complainers like you and think, why bother? You make a silly CAW comment in a section about rub & tugs - two industrys that have nothing to do with each other- and wonder why somebody calls you on it? You just aren't happy unless you bring something up about unions in EVERY comment section- regardless if it is on topic? BTW what do you mean I'VE chased every business away?
r.v.
Sat, Mar 22, 08 at 08:42 PM
If massage parlours were outlawed they wouldn't go away. They would only go underground. I personally do not like to see massage parlours on the strip. T he city should designate the main strip and residential areas off limits to massage parlours. whether you approve or disapprove of massage parlours, they are presently legal. So that means the police have to prove a criime has been committed. If the police can do that, then the landlord has grounds to break the lease. But without a conviction, the landlord risks being sued for breach of contract by his tenant.
Paul
Sun, Mar 23, 08 at 10:57 AM
Take a look at horse racing and casinos, I would choose the massage parlour, for my pleasure. AT LEAST IM GETTING A HONST DEAL.
Get a Life
Mon, Mar 24, 08 at 09:07 PM
I can't believe they actually post half this crap. Sounds like a bunch of 9 year olds without a clue of reality. If you actually got off your backsides and woried about your own life and responsibilities, you wouldn't have the time to sit in front of your computor and blame everyone else for your lack of acomplishments. You discredit this site!
Bob
Tue, Apr 1, 08 at 12:49 PM
I hope not. Where else would I go for a nice relaxing rub? We don't need less of these establishments downtown, we need more. Then the urban city dream of King Eddie and his flunkies will come to pass. We would have the world class city on the rivers of the most beautiful land crossing in the world. We should be including these establishments in our travel brochures. Maybe we could have the ex-Governor of New York be our spokesperson. These places give our youth and newly immigrated citizens a place to work. I won't even mention the contribution these places provide to our economy.
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Former Massage Parlour owners charged in '96 slaying of ailing dad
By IAN ROBERTSON, SUN MEDIA
The Toronto Sun
Arrest in 12-year-old murder case

HAMILTON -- A brothel-keeper who backed Mafia boss John Gotti's bid for freedom is now charged in the 111/2-year-old slaying of a father waiting for a heart transplant. Joseph James "Joe" Drosi was 24 when he drove through a blizzard four years earlier to observe John "Dapper Don" Gotti's 1992 trial in New York. Drosi told Sun columnist Joe Warmington his dream was "to work with Gotti."
He said "I needed to see a true champion of the people. I'm fascinated with him."
The crimelord was convicted in federal court that year of murder and conspiracy and died in prison in 2002. Gotti's biggest Canadian fan rejoined his father in a kitchen countertop business, but police later learned of Drosi's visit to Brooklyn. Involved in drugs and prostitution, police sources said he was protected until recently by the Outlaws biker gang. Drosi and his wife Lynda ran the now-defunct Studio 37, a Barton St. massage parlor fronting as a whorehouse. On May 25, 2001, 10 months after police seized $300,000 in cash, two rifles, jewelry worth $100,000, plus drugs and arrested seven women aged 16 to 19, the couple pleaded guilty to keeping a common bawdy house. Drosi was sentenced to three months in jail, his wife to a year on probation. They wed in 1997, soon after ailing architecture student Gary Gatecliffe -- Lynda's ex-boyfriend and father of their then 4-year-old daughter Faith -- was shot in the forehead in bed in his Burfield Ave.-Upper Ottawa St. bungalow on Oct. 3, 1996. Interviewed over the years, Gatecliffe's ex and her husband were prime suspects in the gang-style murder, homicide Staff-Sgt. Ian Matthews said yesterday. They were arrested quietly Wednesday on King St. Two hours earlier, Matthews joined an ex-Gatecliffe investigator and part of the Hamilton Police-OPP squad that revisited the case last year, to alert the victim's kin. "This was a very emotional meeting," he said in an interview.
Heather Gatecliffe told the Sun "I'm very happy" about the arrests in her brother's murder. "We were very close." Matthews said the murder was not tied to criminal activity. The veil of silence began to crumble when seven accused drug dealers were arrested over the past month, he said. Their names have not been released due to an ongoing probe and hunt for an eighth suspect, but several facing cocaine trafficking plus conspiracy charges "are now witnesses in this homicide investigation," Matthews said. Yesterday, Drosi and his wife, both 41, were in a downtown courthouse charged with first-degree murder, plus obstruction of justice, described as a bid for Faith -- now 15 and under Children's Aid care -- to commit perjury. The couple are due back in court May 20.
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York Region Editorial
Sep 12, 2007 09:05 PM
About 10 years ago, York Region municipalities declared war on an ugly stain that had spread throughout industrial areas and strip malls, angering nearby residents and businesses. Body rub parlours were really fronts for prostitution — or so we all thought.
Municipalities created bylaws to get rid of them, police stepped up investigations. When a triple murder was linked to a “spa” in Markham, police started raiding them, shutting down many. By last year, most had been removed from commercial plazas, however, police discovered the sex trade had relocated into residential neighbourhoods. And now a judge has ruled what went on at a Vaughan body rub parlour may not be illegal.
Justice Howard Chisvin dismissed two bawdy house charges against the manager of Studio 176 ruling that masturbation isn’t necessarily sexual; that if a client pays for a full body massage it can legitimately apply to every part of the body without it being a sexual act. It’s too soon to tell if this ruling will be applied across the board.
Municipal bylaws have restricted the number and location of body rub parlours, required licences and imposed other restrictions to discourage such operations. Some owners have challenged bylaws, such as Healing Hands Studio and Executive Spa, which filed legal action in 2005 challenging 14 sections of Markham’s body rub licensing bylaw, including those requring attendants to keep their clothes on. At the time, Healing Hands owner Pierre Penninkhof commented, “Is there sex going on inside? It depends on your definition of sex.” It sounds suspiciously like the judge has just bolstered his argument.
It seems likely that, should their “full body massages” be declared legal, owners might become bolder about fighting municipal restrictions. We can’t afford to wait and see how this ruling plays out. Local mayors should urge the Crown to appeal now. While some might argue this is a victimless crime, the results of police raids over the years would suggest otherwise. Girls as young as 15 were found working in one Vaughan establishment in 2005. Other investigations found women working as virtual slaves to pay the alleged costs of bringing them here. We have a right to determine community standards and enforce them.
Politicians made an issue out of body rub parlours because a lot of people complained. They don’t want prostitution in their neighbourhood. And while our courts might want to join former president Bill Clinton in quibbling about the definition of sex, most people still recognize that what goes on in these places is prostitution. We should have the right to say no to it.
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The fund manager, the stripper and the missing millions

PAUL WALDIE
Globe and Mail Update
October 18, 2007 EDT
Canada's hedge fund industry has its share of rogues, but few are as colourful as Paul Eustace.
By his own admission in a deposition filed in court, Mr. Eustace lied to investors, lost $208-million (U.S.) in his hedge funds and stole roughly $2-million of client cash. He has also acknowledged cheating on his wife with a stripper for years and using investor money to give his lover $1-million worth of gifts including paying for breast augmentation surgery.
Now Mr. Eustace, 42, faces the prospect of going to jail over allegations he violated court orders and used money that belonged to creditors to cover personal expenses such as tuition for his children's private school.
“Eustace's varied and endless acts of fraud were perpetrated on such a grand scale that it has not only cost innocent investors hundreds of millions of dollars, but has helped to cast a dark cloud over the entire hedge fund industry,” alleges a motion filed in a U.S. court this week by a receiver who is searching for assets.
The allegations have not been proved.
Mr. Eustace, who lives in Oakville, Ont., was unavailable for comment but in court filings he said he didn't know about some of the court orders and was only trying to pay legal bills.
Little was known about Mr. Eustace until June 23, 2005, when regulators in the United States and Canada shut down his company, Philadelphia Alternative Asset Management Co. (PAAM), and froze his bank accounts.
Mr. Eustace is an American and while he ran PAAM out of Oakville, it had operations in Philadelphia. The U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission has since banned Mr. Eustace for life from “engaging in any commodity-related activity.”
The company collapsed into receivership in Philadelphia and the receiver, Clark Hodgson, has filed a series of lawsuits in a bid to recover assets. Hundreds of pages of documents filed in court this week by the receiver's lawyers revealed new details about Mr. Eustace and how he allegedly operated.
Mr. Eustace grew up in Connecticut and got a job with an accounting firm after graduating from the University of Pennsylvania in 1987.
In 1990, he joined Trout Trading Co., a Chicago-based hedge fund founded by his childhood friend Monroe Trout. Mr. Trout sent him to Toronto to set up a subsidiary and Mr. Eustace moved to Oakville with his wife and two children.
In his spare time, Mr. Eustace frequented the Locomotion Cabaret in Mississauga where he met Denise Nadeau, a 21-year-old stripper.
Soon Mr. Eustace was buying Ms. Nadeau expensive gifts, paying for her breast surgery and taking her on trips to New York and Bermuda, where Trout had an office. But Ms. Nadeau's presence in the Bermuda office rankled Mr. Trout and in 1998 he fired Mr. Eustace.
In court filings, Mr. Eustace said he left Trout with nearly $10-million and set up a company called Windas Ltd., naming Ms. Nadeau as a director. Windas didn't last long and in 2000 Mr. Eustace founded a hedge fund called Option Capital Fund with the backing of a few investors including the estate of his dead mother.
It wasn't long before he set up PAAM and opened an office in Philadelphia with the help of a university friend who was in the commodity business. The company managed to attract some prominent directors including John Wallace, vice-chairman of the Philadelphia Stock Exchange.
Mr. Eustace was a generous boss. Salaries for some junior employees reached $275,000 and many received free cars, according to the court filings. When a friend told him about her difficult divorce, Mr. Eustace bought her a new Volvo. His own salary topped $2-million annually.
While PAAM grew, Mr. Eustace's personal life deteriorated. His relationship with Ms. Nadeau soured and she allegedly threatened to tell his wife about their affair unless he gave her money. Mr. Eustace allegedly paid Ms. Nadeau as much as $50,000 at a time and bought her a house and appliances. He also allegedly gave $87,000 to a man named Zack who had threatened to kill Ms. Nadeau unless she repaid a loan.
The receiver estimated the total amount he spent on Ms. Nadeau exceeded $1-million.
By 2005, Ms. Nadeau wasn't his only problem. His funds, which had nearly $300-million in total assets, tanked mainly because Mr. Eustace had made a wrong call on U.S. interest rates.
Rather than tell investors the truth, Mr. Eustace admitted in court filings that he sent fake monthly statements showing strong growth. He also acknowledged taking investor money to pay his salary.
By the time the CFTC moved in, more than $200-million had evaporated. Mr. Eustace insisted he could have turned things around by August if regulators had held off.
The receiver alleges Mr. Eustace hid assets that belonged to investors after PAAM collapsed. He allegedly sold a Rolex watch, a Porsche and company computers containing reams of client data, pocketing all the cash. The receiver wants him jailed until he provides a full accounting for his assets.
While the legal saga plays out, Mr. Eustace remains in Oakville with his family. He also has a job, working for $25 an hour (Canadian) as a bookkeeper at a law firm.


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Mar. 7, 2006. Unknown Source. Criminal charges have been stayed against a former Toronto beauty pageant winner for her alleged role in a massage parlor robbery. Crown prosecutor Marcus Felix yesterday told Justice Kathryn Hawke he was staying all charges against Zenovique Wilson, 20, and Shawnese Chisholm, 19, of Mississauga for their alleged roles in the robbery at a massage parlour in Mississauga and the planning of another heist in Brampton.
The two women and three men were scheduled to begin a preliminary hearing yesterday in a Brampton courtroom. Wilson was out on bail when she won the Miss Toronto Tourism title last April 22, six months to the day after she and four others were arrested in connection with their alleged roles in the robbery.
Pageant organizers couldn't be reached by phone, but a spokesperson told the Toronto Star in an email that Wilson's title was removed when they learned of her criminal charges and runner-up Lori-Ann Price took her crown.
A publication ban prevents reporting why Felix stayed the charges or the evidence against any of the accused. Also yesterday, Raniel St. Louis, 20, of Toronto elected to waive his right to a preliminary hearing and proceed directly to a trial. Jamie Barriteau, 20, and Quincy Blackburn, 19, both of Toronto, decided to continue with their preliminary hearing.
According to public information obtained by the Star, the accused were alleged to have worn masks and used imitation firearms to steal purses, money and cell phones from women at the Soft Hands Spa in Mississauga on Oct. 22, 2004. Four days later, Peel police arrested Wilson and four others at a Brampton strip mall at Orenda and Rutherford Rds. Police alleged at the time of their arrests that the group was also planning on robbing the Mystique Massage Parlour.
The three men face a variety of criminal charges, including using an imitation firearm to commit a robbery, conspiracy to commit robbery and wearing a disguise in the commission of an indictable offence.


Massage parlour raid nets 11 arrests
Last updated Nov 18 2004 12:47 PM EST
CBC News
Moncton police have widened their sex trade dragnet to include massage clubs and escort services, arresting 11 people in a Wednesday night sting.

RCMP Cpl. Terry Lee Kennedy says prostitution has become a serious problem in the St. George Street area of Moncton. Business owners and residents are complaining about sex workers walking the street at night and leaving evidence of their work in parking lots and playgrounds. Dozens of men and women have been arrested on prostitution-related charges in the St. George Street neighbourhood during the last several months.

Wednesday night, police raided two massage parlours, arresting 11 people. Nine of the suspects will be charged with being in a bawdy house, and the other two for operating a bawdy house.

Last weekend, five men were arrested in the same neighbourhood for trying to buy sex.

Kennedy says criminal charges are only part of the solution to the city's prostitution problem. "We're working very closely with the residences and businesses in that area, with addiction services," he says. "There's a new group called PEERS that are there to help women and men who are involved in prostitution to help them get control of their lives."

The 11 suspects will be in court on Jan. 17 to face the charges and enter pleas. The massage parlours will remain open for business.

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Police have laid more than 150 vice charges against a string of massage parlours in Brampton and Mississauga following a five-month undercover operation.

Peel Regional Police's Vice Unit launched the investigation into the region's massage parlours in February as a result of complaints from the public.

Officers with "Project Rubdown" discovered widespread occurrences of sex acts being performed for money in the 27 licensed businesses.

"We conducted investigations at every known body rub parlour in the Region of Peel and have established solid evidence of prostitution in each and every one of them," said Detective Don Cousineau.

"What surprised us the most was how forthright the attendants were in readily admitting they performed acts of prostitution as an expected part of the services they provided."

Employees and operators of the so-called "rub parlours" are faced with 151 charges relating to the operation of common bawdy-houses.

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Calgary to review massage licence bylaw
Last updated Nov 7 2003 05:37 PM MST
CBC News
The city is reviewing its licensing bylaws after police raided a number of massage parlours they said were bringing in women from southeast Asia to work in the sex trade.

But the city says the timing of the review is coincidental.

"It was our intention to review all of our bylaws over the next year," Shirley Stunzi, manager of business licensing said. "We have 10 bylaws to administer and massage practitioners, and the massage bylaws, and we were going to review that one as well.

"So it wasn't specifically tied to this specific incident. However, this just brought it up and highlighted it."

Earlier this week, police raided nine massage parlours and charged 16 people with a number of offences, including living off the avails of prostitution and keeping a common bawdy house. Police believe they cracked an underground pipeline that brought women into the country to work in the sex trade.

From Nov. 6, 2003: Police crack down on human smuggling

They then raided three more massage parlours and in total, 21 people have now been charged. Police are still looking for 10 more people and plan to lay up to 20 other charges.

The women working in the massage parlours had been licensed by the city, which had been given false documentation.

Stunzi says there are more than 450 licensed massage businesses in Calgary, and all have background checks done by the police on both owner and practioner. She says the review will look at whether more hours of training should be required to help weed out illegitimate businesses, or if licence fees should be increased.



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Massage parlours rub council the wrong way
Last updated Jun 28 2005 09:33 AM EDT
CBC News

Toronto city councillors are being asked to crack down on illegal massage parlours that masquerade as centres for holistic medicine.

They will debate a motion next month that, if passed, would limit licences for massage operations to businesses that belong to professional associations.

Current estimates suggest that as many as half of the city's holistic clinics are simply fronts for prostitution.

That has incensed legitimate business owners, who say their acupuncture and shiatsu massage clinics are being unfairly perceived as sex shops.

"All of a sudden, I'm being interpreted as being a sex-trade worker as opposed to a health professional," said Timothy Phillips, whose Danforth Avenue business offers acupuncture and Chinese traditional medicine in addition to shiatsu massage.

"The city has been granting licences without examining the credentials of therapists, giving them to anyone who can print up a certificate on their computer."

Councillor Howard Moscoe says the aim of tighter licensing requirements is to make clear who is legitimate and who isn't.

"We're under enormous public pressure to close down the body-rub industry in this city, whether they call themselves aromatherapy, shiatsu or anything else," Moscoe said.

The proposal is expected to be debated at council in July.

If it's approved, the new rules will come into force in October.


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Police nab suspects in massage parlour theft
Last updated May 13 2005 07:13 AM ADT
CBC News
A massage parlour in downtown St. John's has been held up for the second time this week, but Thursday night's robbers did not get away.

Two men wearing bandanas and armed with a knife held up Hush, on Duckworth Street, shortly before 11:20 p.m.

The police say the employees became suspicious when someone began to enter the parlour, but then backed out.

An employee on duty called a friend and left the phone line open.

That friend called the police, who arrived as the robbers were starting to leave the building.

The thieves were able to escape through another exit.

A police dog tracked them down within minutes.

Money and jewelry that had been stolen were recovered.

On Monday night, two men wearing bandanas and armed with a knife held up the Hush massage parlour.

However, police are not saying whether the same individuals are believed to have been involved in both robberies.

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VANCOUVER– The owner of a Vancouver massage parlour faces the rare charge of trafficking women into the country for the purpose of prostitution.

Michael Ng, who owns King City Massage Centre, is charged with bringing two Chinese women into Canada to work at his business as prostitutes.

He is also charged with running a common bawdy house and living off the avails of prostitution.

Victims' groups say the rarity of the trafficking charge indicates the federal government is not doing enough to combat human trafficking.

Deborah Isaacs of MOSAIC – a Vancouver group that assists immigrants and refugees – says prosecutions such as this one are few and far between.

And she says much more needs to be done because life for women being trafficked into Canada is very hard.

"Very isolating. They don't have much contact, they have no freedom," she says. "For those in prostitution, they may have to have an enormous number of clients a day to meet the demand."

Naomi Minwalla, an immigration lawyer who deals with victims of sex-trade trafficking, agrees that no one appears to be paying attention to the problem.

"There seems to be a clear lack of communication between parties who should have an interest in eliminating this problem," she says.

RCMP Supt. Bill Ard is in charge of a 35-member team in B.C. that investigates human trafficking. He admits police don't know the extent of the problem. But Ard says steps are being taken to get a handle on the situation.

"The bottom line is we're still getting going with this and I don't know what the future will hold."

The RCMP is responsible for investigating human trafficking cases under the 2002 Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. So far, there have been no convictions under the legislation.

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Surburbs saved from massage parlours
Last Updated Apr 4, 2000 12:00:00 AM
CBC News
Winnipeggers living outside the downtown don't have to worry about massage parlours and escort services coming to their neighborhoods. At least, not yet. This morning a city committee said it would not consider licencing those businesses outside the central area. Coun. Jenny Gerbasi tried to sell the property and development committe on the idea. And she's not happy with the councillors' reaction. "It's disappointing to me that councillors were not willing to discuss the issue further, that they wanted to kill it, that they wanted it to go away. "I can think of other things I'd rather focus on too, but the people who live in the downtown are entitled to the same rights as other citizens," she says. "They have the right to not have everything concentrated in their neighborhood in one little area." Councillors say there would be a huge outcry if they even asked people living in their wards if they wanted to talk about changing the zoning by-law. Garth Steek says he's already had many calls from angry constituents. The zoning question now goes to city council. Gerbasi will try to get support of her colleagues then.

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July 29th
'Holistic' centre to shut down
City councillor witnessed sex during inspection
Reporter offered sexual services by an attendant

DALE BRAZAO
STAFF REPORTER

After a two-year battle and dozens of complaints from neighbours, the city has managed to close down one of its most notorious rub-and-tug "holistic" centres.

The Ontario Court of Justice has ordered 773A The Queensway, a licensed "holistic" spa, to shut its doors on Monday, and keep them closed for two years.

"If they haven't locked the doors by August 1st, then we go in with a contractor and we board it up and lock it up," Pam Coburn, executive director of municipal licensing and standards, said yesterday. "And if we go back on August 2nd and they've reopened, then we go again."

The city sought the closure order after the owner, Marc Pierre Venot, was convicted in January of operating the licensed holistic centre as an unlicensed body rub parlour.

Kwong Cham Shong, the manager of 773A The Queensway, said she will obey the court order, and plans to leave the country soon after the "spa" shuts down. The body rub parlour is located next to the Kingsway Lambton Home for Seniors, whose residents have long been demanding that the sex den be closed.

"I'm going back to China," said Shong, known to her clients and neighbours as Sophie. "I like Canada. But I don't know what I did wrong. I follow the bylaws. I follow my lease. I don't know what these people have against me."

The spa was featured prominently in a Toronto Star investigative series earlier this year into the "holistic" scene in Toronto. The investigation revealed that as many as 75 per cent of the 330 city licensed holistic centres are nothing more than brothels.

A reporter who went undercover for an aromatic massage at 773A The Queensway was offered sexual services for additional money by an attendant, but refused.

And just last week Councillor Peter Milczyn (Ward 5, Etobicoke- Lakeshore) said he witnessed an attendant having sex with a customer in one of the massage rooms, even as city inspectors were on the premises conducting a routine site inspection.

"I saw a naked man on top of a naked woman on her back and he was having sex," said Milczyn. "He was thrusting."

The practitioner, who fled the massage room with her hands covering her face, later told reporters who had accompanied the inspectors that although she and the client were both naked on the table, she was not having sex.

"I was doing push-ups," said the practitioner, who identified herself to reporters as Julia.

Shong said yesterday that Julia no longer works for her.

"She's a crazy girl. She takes a lot of medication. Everybody knows she's crazy, but she gives a very good massage."

News of the closure order was cheered by some of the seniors, who said they are tired of finding condoms in the parking lot, and sick of seeing patrons of the alleged health spa urinating against the walls of their building.

"I'd like to see a variety store in its place," said Jean McKennae, a resident for 12 years, who requires a wheelchair to get around. "That's something we can all use."

"They'll be happy about this, no doubt about it," said superintendent Otto Curtis. "The main complaint we get from seniors, aside from the usual noise and traffic complaints, is of people using the property as a public washroom."

On Tuesday, city council introduced new measures to crack down on bawdy houses and illegal body rub parlours masquerading as holistic health care providers.

The major change, designed to weed out the sex workers from the legitimate wellness practitioners, requires all holistic operators to become members in good standing of recognized professional organizations.


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Globe and Mail article July 27th

By ROB SHAW

Wednesday, July 27, 2005 Page A10

The city of Toronto has a "sexual dysfunction" when it comes to cracking down on sex parlours masquerading as holistic health centres, and at least one city councillor says council's efforts last night did little to help the problem.

Council voted unanimously to pass a package of bylaw amendments that tackle the "rub and tug" problem by linking business licences to membership in a professional, recognized, holistic health association. The city estimates more than half of Toronto's 315 licensed holistic or traditional medicine establishments are fronts for sexual services.

But a series of last-minute changes in the bylaw amendments left some loopholes open for sex services to continue to plague the city, said Councillor Peter Milczyn, who introduced the original plan.

"What we did today is going to continue to have people frustrated that the city can't enforce the laws, can't enforce its own bylaws, [and] can't collect the money to do it," he said.

Earlier yesterday, Mr. Milczyn had said Toronto suffers from a "sexual dysfunction," and that "for years politicians have been sucking and blowing on this issue, and it's time to come to a conclusion."

Some councillors had wanted businesses to keep their doors and treatment rooms unlocked, so that bylaw officers could better inspect the premises. But council voted against that, citing safety reasons.

Council also voted against health checks for holistic practitioners (presumably for sexually transmitted diseases), against security cameras in the centres and against letters to landlords alerting them that new tenants were holistic health businesses. Council also voted against a task force on the regulation of the sex trade in Toronto.

Finally, a proposal to raise business licensing fees was held back pending a public consultation. The city already spends $2.5-million more in bylaw enforcement than it gains in revenue.

"The issue of the $2.5-million deficit for enforcement is still out there," Mr. Milczyn said.

But at least one holistic healer worried his business would be caught in the crossfire of a city crackdown said he thought council did the right thing. "What I saw was a council who was very sympathetic to our cause," said Timothy Phillips, a shiatsu therapist and owner of Healing on the Danforth. "I think it went well. How things are implemented is up to the city."

As part of the bylaws, body rub parlours and holistic centres also will not be allowed to stay open as late.
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Toronto Sun July 27

By ROB GRANATSTEIN, CITY HALL BUREAU

POLITICIANS HAVE pushed through a new bylaw to crack down on illegal "rub and tug" massage parlours calling themselves holistic centres.

But the bylaw is rubbing some councillors the wrong way.

Councillor Peter Milczyn, whose Etobicoke ward features a stretch on The Queensway with a number of body rub parlours, said this is another example of politicians "sucking and blowing" on this issue. The city is licensing brothels, he said.

PROVIDERS TO BE DRESSED

"They made a weak bylaw weaker," Milczyn said following the vote to approve the new strategy to deal with body rubs.

Under the new rules, holistic medicine practitioners will have to be approved by a professional association to qualify for a city licence. Council also passed rules forcing holistic medicine providers, including shiatsu and aromatherapy professionals, to be dressed.

The bylaw also allows for "manipulation of the buttock muscles."

But council overturned a staff proposal forcing the centres to leave front doors and treatment room doors unlocked while seeing a patient.

Timothy Phillips, who does shiatsu at Healing on the Danforth, called the changes a good start.

"Council is starting to understand we're legitimate businesses," he said.

Phillips said he approved of new rules giving organizations the job of limiting hours of operation to between 8 a.m. and 9 p.m.

Councillor Bill Saundercook called the new rules the start of a new attack on illegal massage parlours.

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Toronto Star, July 27, 2005
Holistic practitioners will have to become members of professional organizations if they want to be licensed in Toronto, but they can now have their doors locked when they are working on their clients.

That's the gist of the new bylaw city councillors came up with yesterday —after five hours of debate and more than two dozen motions — in their latest attempt to tackle the sex shops operating as licensed holistic health centres.

"The city of Toronto has a sexual dysfunction," Councillor Peter Milczyn (Ward 5, Etobicoke-Lakeshore) said in calling for a crackdown on the sex dens, many of which are in residential areas. "For years, politicians have been sucking and blowing on this issue. And it's time to come to a conclusion."

A Toronto Star investigation into the "holistic" scene in Toronto earlier this year revealed that more than 75 per cent of the 330 city-licensed centres are nothing more than brothels. Another 300 operate without any licences at all, city inspectors say.

Milczyn, who has seen more than a dozen "holistic" spas open along The Queensway in his ward in the past few years, lost a motion that would have staff look at including nail salons in the new bylaw.

Councillor Howard Moscoe (Ward 15, Eglinton-Lawrence) thought the idea was too draconian, asking Milczyn if he "had an expectation that some pedicurist is going to suck somebody's toes." The city's current problem stems from an earlier attempt to control the sex trade by capping the number of licensed body-rub parlours at 25, he said.

Policing the holistic centres costs the city about $3.1 million a year in inspection and legal costs, but licensing holistic operations generates just $600,000 for the city.

Licensing staff had urged that fees be increased substantially as a way to recover some of the enforcement costs, but a council committee turned that down and yesterday councillors decided to send the issue back for further debate.

Pam Coburg, head of municipal licensing and standards, said forcing holistic practitioners to become members of a recognized professional organization is an important first step in squeezing out the illegal sex operators.

"The question is whether the professional associations will be able to maintain their internal integrity and weed these people out," she said.

The most contentious debate occurred around a motion by Mayor David Miller to allow holistic practitioners to lock their doors while they are with clients as a safety measure.

Milczyn criticized the proposal, saying it will interfere with inspections and the police's ability to enforce the bylaws.

The new bylaw also failed to win total support among the legitimate holistic practitioners who have been fighting for new regulations to combat the illicit sex trade which many say has soiled their profession.

Timothy Phillips, a registered shiatsu therapist who operates a clinic on Danforth Ave., predicted the new regulations would have little effect on curbing the sex trade. "It doesn't matter what new bylaws they come up with; these people will find a way around them," he said.



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Body rub charges on rise

Jul 23, 2005
Lisa Queen, Staff Writer

An expected crackdown on body rub parlours in Toronto won't drive an influx of the spas north to York Region, a York Regional Police drugs and vice officer predicts.

"We know we've tightened down so much, certain places (parlours) are going to Toronto instead of York because of our aggressive enforcement up here," Det.-Const. Gary McBride said.

"We have one of the most dedicated vice squads in the GTA."

Toronto council is expected to tighten rules and increase fees for holistic spas, which are often fronts for prostitution and other illegal activities, when it meets Tuesday.

But that doesn't mean the parlours will move north, Det-Const. McBride said.

"I don't have any concerns. We're rapidly reducing the number of body rub parlours in York Region." he said, although he was unable to provide numbers.

"We have several folding this week and next week. That's from working with police, municipal bylaw officers and the owners of the industrial units (where tenants operate parlours)."

Although Vaughan was late to come on board, Det.-Const. McBride credited York's municipal bylaw enforcement units for helping to keep a lid on illegal activities at licensed and unlicensed parlours."

Last spring, a police inspector sharply criticized Vaughan's lax attitude.

In a letter to the city, now-retired Insp. Denis Mulholland said "little, if any" enforcement was being conducted by bylaw officers.

"This differs significantly from the aggressive approach two other municipalities have taken, namely Richmond Hill and Markham," he wrote.

"Without the co-operation of the city, we cannot effectively enforce the bylaw and eliminate these illegal establishments from operating within your city. York Regional Police and your bylaw enforcement officers are aware that some of these establishments operate as fronts for open prostitution within your city and require frequent inspections."

The criticism prompted council to dedicate the equivalent of a full-time bylaw officer to police body rub parlours starting in May.

"The City of Vaughan has dedicated people who are working with police, who are doing their own bylaw inspections," said Det.-Const. McBride, who covers Markham.

"They have been out there pounding them. Definitely, they've been out enforcing."

Tony Thompson, senior manager of Vaughan's bylaw department, was unavailable to comment on the results of Vaughan's increased enforcement over the last two months.

In May, he acknowledged the city was laying far fewer charges than its neighbours.

Last year, about 100 bylaw charges were laid in Vaughan compared to 320 in Richmond Hill, he said.

City solicitor Bob Swayze said bylaw officers laid 44 charges against parlour attendants and owners over a three-week period since beefing up enforcement.

Although he couldn't provide numbers for the same period last year, he said substantially more charges have been laid this year.

Councillor Peter Meffe is confident Vaughan's renewed interest in charging body rub parlours will prevent Toronto spas from moving north after that city introduces tougher standards.

However, he also worries they could redefine themselves or go underground by operating out of basements in residential neighbourhoods.

"You have governments trying to eliminate (prostitution) for millenniums going back to Greek and Roman times," he said, adding his main concern is making sure underage people aren't lured or forced into the business.

"It's a cat and mouse game. Just because you bring a cat into your house, the cat gets old or tired and you have the mouse problem back again."

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Clinics offer more than holistic cures
Some health centres are really fronts for prostitution, police believe

By TIM APPLEBY AND JEFF GRAY

Saturday, July 23, 2005 Page A9

Tucked between a furniture store and a beauty salon on one of the seedier stretches of Bloor Street West can be found a self-described "health clinic" -- one of scores to have mushroomed across the downtown over the past six years. In its store window is proffered an impressive array of holistic remedies: aromatherapy, acupressure, shiatsu, reflexology.

Once inside the door, however, a visitor's options appear to shrink. Scantily clad and with a winning smile, a fortyish attendant who identifies herself as Shelly from Shanghai, a Canadian resident for six years, appears puzzled by an inquiry about a shiatsu treatment.

Instead, she suggests a half-hour massage for $35.

Down the hallway in one of the clinic's grubby, dimly lit cubicles, replete with massage bed, lotions and a shower stall, a faded scrap of paper taped to the wall sternly admonishes patrons: "No sex acts of any kind are to be performed on the premises."

So maybe the absentee proprietor, whom Shelly refers to as "the big boss," really does run a holistic health centre rather than a sex den.

But if so, he looks to be in a minority. City hall officials estimate that of the city's 315 licensed holistic or traditional medicine establishments, between half and three-quarters are fronts for prostitution.

Setting up such a business requires no great acumen. Under current rules, anyone holding a certificate showing that he or she has trained in some sort of traditional healing technique can pay a $232 fee and obtain a licence to open a centre.

The most immediate result of this loose regulation is a steady net loss for the city's licensing department. Last year alone, the gap between revenues and bylaw-enforcement costs was close to $2.5-million. Add to that significant difficulties for legitimate holistic practitioners tarnished by the growing presence of the brothel-keepers.

But now, thanks to the city's planning and transportation committee, the landscape seems about to shift. In a package of bylaw amendments that had been scheduled for debate on Thursday before being deferred until next week, some of the key ground rules would change.

Chief of these would be a requirement that to obtain a licence, the applicant would no longer be able to simply flash a "diploma" that may or may not be genuine, as easily created on a desktop computer as any other bogus credential.

Instead, the would-be operators would have to demonstrate membership in professional, recognized organizations. Those organizations, in turn, would have to apply to the city for accreditation, citing documented proof of their codes of ethics and disciplinary procedures.

As things stand, monitoring those groups falls to the federal Department of Human Resources.

"To be quite honest, that hasn't worked out," said Rudi Czekella, a policy research officer with the city's municipal licensing and standards office, who describes the current checks and balances as sieve-like.

Under the new system, the city will largely be able to "filter out the illegals," Mr. Czekella said. "You can never filter out anything 100 per cent. But you should reduce it substantially."

If that happens, the first beneficiary will be the taxpayer.

Steadily growing in number since they began appearing in 1999, Toronto's assorted holistic centres produced roughly $600,000 in licensing revenue last year.

Balanced against that, however, was the price tag for administering and inspecting the centres and prosecuting operators of ones that violate bylaws. In 2004, those total costs exceeded $3-million.

While prostitution per se is not illegal in Canada, a host of prostitution-related activities are.

These include soliciting in a public place; pimping and living off a prostitute's earnings; and operating "a common bawdy house," meaning a brothel.

But the city inspectors who struggle to put a dent in Toronto's booming sex-emporium industry usually rely not on the Criminal Code, which they have little authority to enforce, but on municipal bylaws. Among the more than 260 bylaw charges laid against holistic centres last year, infractions ranged from not having the requisite licence, to failing to provide receipts, to offering "unauthorized services."

Toronto is not alone. Other cities, in Ontario and elsewhere, have issued alternative health-care licences for businesses that have turned out to be prostitution operations.

Legitimate or not, Toronto's holistic clinics are in sharp contrast to the circumstances of its licensed body-rub parlours, whose number is capped at 25, and whose workers must, among other things, provide periodic medical-test results proving they carry no communicable diseases.

But the big difference is in operating costs. A start-up licence for a body-rub parlour -- if available -- costs more than $10,000, the same as for a strip club, and the annual renewal fee is almost as much again.

A year ago, city staff recommended plugging the fiscal shortfall by charging holistic practitioners the same. But amid concern for Toronto's many bona fide holistic businesses, city councillors balked.

So instead, the proposals to be reviewed by council next week include a plan to increase fees for all municipally licensed businesses by $35, in an attempt to offset that $2.5-million shortfall.

In addition the changes would also:

Require that itemized bills be kept for every patient, available to city inspectors on demand.

Prohibit the locking of any room or cubicle within a holistic establishment, allowing inspectors unhindered access.

Toughen penalties if minors are involved.

Stipulate that staff wear "clean, opaque professional clothing."

Heeding requests from legitimate traditional-medicine practitioners, the city would loosen some other regulations.

But with what difference? Some observers liken prostitution to a soft balloon -- step on it in one area and it rises in another. Shut down the phony holistic operators, that argument goes, and they will find another grey area of the law and reappear, say, as nail-salon entrepreneurs.

"At this point, I don't think we know," said Councillor Case Ootes (Toronto-Danforth). "We're just making every effort we can without harming the legitimate practitioners. Those people don't make large incomes."

A long-time Toronto Police officer with extensive street experience was more optimistic, suggesting that the sex trade often reflects ease of opportunity. "Prostitution comes in many forms, street-level prostitution is always going to be there, unless you increase the resources to keep the females off the street," he said.

"But if you're talking about illegitimate businesses, something can be done. At least I like to think it can."

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July 20, 2005
Holistic spa under scrutiny
'There's no sex happening here,' manager promises
City councillors to vote tomorrow on changes to bylaw

ROBERT CRIBB AND DALE BRAZAO
STAFF REPORTERS

Kwong Cham Shong is shaking her head as two city inspectors look around her west-end holistic centre.

"There's no sex happening here," declares the manager of 773A The Queensway, a city-licensed spa located beneath a seniors' home, whose residents have demanded action to close it down.

"I promise I don't let sex happen here."

Even as she speaks the words to a city inspector, a councillor and two reporters, sex is happening a few metres away inside one of the spa's massage rooms.

This isn't the first time the holistic centre has faced problems with inspectors.

It also featured in a recent Toronto Star investigation that found as many as three-quarters of the city's 300 licensed holistic centres operate as sex dens. It's a problem that costs taxpayers $2.5 million a year in inspection and legal action costs.

Tomorrow city council is scheduled to vote on a plan for higher fees and tighter rules around holistic centre licensing, although the illicit sex industry may already be moving on to a new cover — as nail salons.

But on Monday night, when an inspector and the local councillor invited two reporters along on visits to four holistic centres, 773A The Queensway is busted.

Shong, who goes by the name Sophie with customers, is in the middle of denying any illicit activity in her holistic centre when she sees a reporter looking through the peephole of a closed massage room door where a practitioner is treating a male client. Sophie rushes over, pushes him aside and peeks through.

What she sees prompts her to fling open the door, rush in, slam the door and shut off the lights inside.

In the brief moment the door was open, it was clear what was happening inside.

"I saw a naked man on top of a naked woman on her back and he was having sex," said Peter Milczyn (Ward 5, Etobicoke-Lakeshore), who was present for the inspection Monday evening. "He was thrusting."

Moments later, the client walked out of the massage room fully dressed. He accepted $60 in cash from Sophie as reimbursement for his unfinished holistic treatment.

"I was just having a massage, for heaven's sake," he said.

The practitioner, who fled the room with her hand covering her face, could not produce a holistic practitioner's licence for inspectors, as is required by city bylaws.

`My personal attitude is we should be licensing brothels in a few select industrial areas with proper health monitoring'

Councillor Peter Milczyn

In an interview, she denied she was having sex with her client.

"I was doing push-ups," said the 26-year-old, who identified herself as Julia. "I'm a stripper. I like to take my clothes off. I'm sorry if that offends people. I've always been an exhibitionist."

The holistic centre already has six bylaw charges pending against it and one prior conviction, according to city licensing inspector John Romano, who conducted the inspection.

City councillors are to vote tomorrow on changes to bylaws governing holistic centres, which are licensed to offer alternative health treatments such as shiatsu, reflexology and aromatherapy. Inspectors can lay charges against owners or employees based on municipal bylaw offences, ranging from missing licences to infractions such as failing to wear proper clothing or offering "unauthorized services."

If adopted by council, new rules will require holistic practitioners to be accredited by professional associations, while hiking fees to cover more of the cost of enforcement. Last year the city spent $3.1 million licensing, inspecting and prosecuting holistic centres for flouting bylaws. Fees charged to owners and practitioners brought in only $600,000.

But the illicit sex industry already appears to be one step ahead, morphing into nail salons that offer massage services on the side. In Toronto, nail salons do not require city licences.

Milczyn wants to see the city legalize prostitution and restrict places like 773A The Queensway to industrial areas, away from homes and other businesses.

"My personal attitude is we should be licensing brothels in a few select industrial areas with proper health monitoring — make sure it's safe and